What do you think about Socialist countries Politics and governments

Oxiu, is it a fact? You know that it's only your opinion. I thought like that long time ago too. But today the world is changing. And it's obvious.
SergeyMoro you only ever seem to speak in opinions and assertions yourself. You're running out of rhetoric.
I've got a fact for you. The Soviet Union collapsed. Now you think the world is changing?
You want to do the same thing, but you expect different results this time. That's socialism in a nutshell.

Brendan, I just wanted to point out that everything is not so strait as many people think. For example, communists in Chili ( excuse me, I even don't know how to spell it) came peacefully to power. Are you against it? But reactionaries just killed the president. Do you call it democracy? I am against such democracy. And nobody can convince me that it's a right thing to do. Are we humans or just animals? How can I be against socialist China, but for socialist Sweden? Isn't it a double standards?

Brendan, the fact that USSR disintegrated, what does it tell us? China does not disintegrated, does it tell us that China on the right track? You making a strange conclusions.

I have seen many new perceptions about my country's mistakes, and maybe I can correct it here. First of all, I don't know why people think socialist believers are just as fanatical as religious people. Is this the case in western countries? Not so in China. The Chinese take a very practical attitude towards socialism. As a friend mentioned before, there is a famous saying in our socialist market economy that a black cat and a white cat are a good cat if they catch a mouse. Socialism and capitalism are not the main points of debate after 1979. It's like an apple can be red or green. Our country thinks red apples are delicious because red apples are sweeter. We advertise its benefits. Of course, green sour apples also have good points. We learn from them , make our apples taste better. In fact, I think capitalist countries just do the same.Compared with the 19th century, workers' rights have been greatly improved. The welfare and security mechanisms of various countries are constantly improving, and state-owned elements are also introduced in some industries.There is a credit to socialism here , just like we also benefit from the market economy.And then again, in China you can freely comment on politics on social media. If you can reading Chinese, just download an app and go to the current affairs-related section to find it. When the people of our country speak out for current affairs, the country will see and give solutions. We just don't go out and demonstrate. If you have heard the recent social news about Tangshan beating people on the Chinese Internet, you should have seen that the official media quickly published articles criticizing such incidents in response to public expectations within a few days of the incident.The last thing I can't understand is that my country has always adhered to the principle of mutual respect and non-interference in foreign affairs. Why China's reputation looks so bad in the world? Just because we are a socialist country? But we didn't impose our choice on others, we just advertised it to the world.At least that's how it is in the information I've received.

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Finally, I implore a little more cultural considerations. South Korea and Japan are also developed capitalist countries, but they are still different from many European and American countries. Maybe some people also think that they are not free enough. This is our East Asian cultural circle.

I am not saying it is correct. I'm just saying it's something we've formed for a long time and still live in. Compared with Japan and South Korea, the status of women in China is higher, and I am proud to say that. We will also continue to work hard to build a better and happier socialist country and a community with a shared future for mankind.

But I'm not saying it's wrong either. It's just a cultural phenomenon. People live in different regions and are influenced by different cultures and educations, that's all.

I have seen many new perceptions about my country's mistakes, and maybe I can correct it here. First of all, I don't know why people think socialist believers are just as fanatical as religious people. Is this the case in western countries? Not so in China. The Chinese take a very practical attitude towards socialism. As a friend mentioned before, there is a famous saying in our socialist market economy that a black cat and a white cat are a good cat if they catch a mouse. Socialism and capitalism are not the main points of debate after 1979. It's like an apple can be red or green. Our country thinks red apples are delicious because red apples are sweeter. We advertise its benefits. Of course, green sour apples also have good points. We learn from them , make our apples taste better. In fact, I think capitalist countries just do the same.Compared with the 19th century, workers' rights have been greatly improved. The welfare and security mechanisms of various countries are constantly improving, and state-owned elements are also introduced in some industries.There is a credit to socialism here , just like we also benefit from the market economy.And then again, in China you can freely comment on politics on social media. If you can read Chinese, just download an app and go to the current affairs-related section to find it. When the people of our country speak out for current affairs, the country will see and give solutions. We just don't go out and demonstrate. If you have heard the recent social news about Tangshan beating people on the Chinese Internet, you should have seen that the official media quickly published articles criticizing such incidents in response to public expectations within a few days of the incident.The last thing I can't understand is that my country has always adhered to the principle of mutual respect and non-interference in foreign affairs. Why China's reputation looks so bad in the world? Just because we are a socialist country? But we didn't impose our choice on others, we just advertised it to the world.At least that's how it is in the information I've received.

Mingyuan, you so passionate about your country. It's so touchily.

For example, communists in Chili ( excuse me, I even don't know how to spell it) came peacefully to power. Are you against it? But reactionaries just killed the president. Do you call it democracy? I am against such democracy.
Maybe you’re referring to Pinochet coming into power? No I don’t call that democracy. I call that a coup.

How can I be against socialist China, but for socialist Sweden? Isn't it a double standards?
I did post a link to an article about the Nordic system. If you don’t want to look at it, okay.
Here’s a video too btw. Danish PM talking about a misconception that many Americans have about Denmark being a socialist country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO7wgS5tdz4
If you don’t want to look at that, you can find the video on youtube yourself
“Denmark is not "Socialist" | Denmark Prime Minister (Lars Løkke Rasmussen)”
Norway and Sweden have kings. Ever hear of a socialist king?

How can I be against socialist China, but for socialist Sweden? Isn't it a double standards?
I disagree with plenty of governments on a variety of things.
I disagree all the time with my government on things. I don’t call that a double standard. I call that common sense. You can’t really solve a problem unless you identify it first.

There are those who think the government is looking out for their best interests and there are those who think.
When you’re so devoted to an ideology you can’t see any problems that might arise with it.

The fact that the USSR “disintegrated” it does say something. A major socialist power ended up failing well before it’s time. It did last a few decades.
China is still there. Well to them for lasting this long, but it is an authoritarian system. There are plenty of countries that have been around as long as or longer than the Peoples Republic of China. Many of which I'd rather live in because they don't have an authoritarian system.

What are the strange conclusions that I’m making?

Brendan, you write many messages, but I can't do the same thing. Somehow I have a qoutas on writing messages. Excuse me, but I becoming paranoiac. Is it because I am Russian? Or maybe I am saying something dangerous? It probably not so, but I have some doubts about freedom of speech in western media. Anyway, I know that Sweden formaly is not socialist country. If I would like to see all the scientific definitions I would use encyclopedia. You know, if I begin to answer all of your questions it will take me several hours. I told you that I lived in USA for ten years and I can compare life in USA and Russia. But you are telling me to believe you but not my own eyes. And of course you know better how are things are running in Russia. You are saying that I am saying propaganda, but actually you doing it yourself.

Anyway, I know that Sweden formaly is not socialist country.
Then why mention it? I know why. It’s because socialists like to claim Scandinavian countries for themselves. They like to point to them and say “That’s a good example of socialism. They’re not starving and don’t have an authoritarian state.”
A good example of this might be members of the growing socialist movement in the USA, like Bernie Sanders.

I told you that I lived in USA for ten years and I can compare life in USA and Russia.
I think most people would prefer to live in their own country than go anywhere else.
If you didn’t like the USA, so why spend 10 years there? I get that people often have to travel because of work, but you must have liked something about the place to stick around that long.